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		<title>Comment on But he built some beautiful autobahns by Douglas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Douglas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t agree with you more Jerry. I&#039;m really fed up with the recent flood of arrogant, facile, uninformed, unnuanced and quasi-celebratory articles twenty years on from the fall of the Berlin Wall. Unfortunately, though not surprisingly, Martin&#039;s reaction to Seumas Milne&#039;s piece falls into that category. &quot;Libertarianism&quot; dressed up as a mere defence of the status quo and &quot;whatever will be, will be&quot;. At least a significant proportion of the electorate in the former East Germany see otherwise given their recent voting patterns.

Douglas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree with you more Jerry. I&#8217;m really fed up with the recent flood of arrogant, facile, uninformed, unnuanced and quasi-celebratory articles twenty years on from the fall of the Berlin Wall. Unfortunately, though not surprisingly, Martin&#8217;s reaction to Seumas Milne&#8217;s piece falls into that category. &#8220;Libertarianism&#8221; dressed up as a mere defence of the status quo and &#8220;whatever will be, will be&#8221;. At least a significant proportion of the electorate in the former East Germany see otherwise given their recent voting patterns.</p>
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		<title>Comment on But he built some beautiful autobahns by Jerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An interesting point, Martin- 

Let’s not be too cut-and-dried here. I went to East Germany twice- in 1979 or thereabouts and in late 1988. I made friends there the first time, and was visiting them the second time. Both times I was in the company of a friend who was born there but who escaped on the handlebars of his mother’s bike when he was about 8 years old, when his father was jailed as an “exploiter of the working class” (he ran a factory making printing machinery). He became a professor of marketing in London, so no Ostalgia there.

My experience was that yes, there was a considerable lack of freedom. No, most people couldn’t easily travel to the West. No, you couldn’t say what you wanted; yes, people  spied on each other. The upside (and there was an upside for many people) was, as Seamus Milne says, “full employment, social equality, cheap housing, transport and culture, one of the best childcare systems in the world, and greater freedom in the workplace than most employees enjoy in today’s Germany”. I haven’t read the article, and I think I’d query the last point, but I would add health care as another plus point. I remember talking to a girl from Jena university who pointed out that if you were poor in the West you couldn’t travel either, even if they let you...  The interesting thing is that on my last visit, about ten years ago, at least two of the couples I’d met earlier had serious reservations about the “instant reunification” of the two Germanies. What they’d hoped for was a more gentle transition over a few years or so, via a Scandinavian-style social democracy. 

What they got was, as for many in the East, a dreadful shock. Sure, they were suddenly allowed to do what they wanted, say what they wanted- start their own businesses, travel, etc. The fact is most of them were psychologically unsuited to do any of those things. What they had had was security- a nanny-like, oppressive security, it’s true, but they didn’t need to worry about losing their jobs, their houses, etc. (A bit like Spain after Franco, in fact...). But now all the rich, smart, Western-educated elite came over and bought up land, houses, companies- everything the Treuhand could sell, it sold. They’d exchanged slavery to the state for slavery to the (external) private sector. My friend was offered his father’s old home in Germany for just a few thousand marks. To his credit, he didn’t take it, because he discovered that it was turned into flats after the war, and six families would have to be evicted if he did. 

So when people say “things were better under Communism”  remember that for many people- especially the poor- many things were no worse. Most people adapt to the system they have. Do we seriously believe every Frenchman was a member of the maquis during the war? A large proportion of Germans were pretty much unconcerned who ran the country in the 30s. The majority of Spaniards carried on under Franco, and their lives didn’t change radically after his death. A surprising number of Cubans seem to be more or less content under Castro- perhaps they too are apprehensive about the American Dream-type alternative?

 As the new generations come through, the East/West division will fade away- but it’s going to need a couple of generations- not helped by the fact that, as I said, at least in business the Wessies often treat the Ossies with contempt, as a source for cheap labour without immigration problems...  This is no defence of the old system, but nor is the new one faultless. And at least we can criticise...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting point, Martin- </p>
<p>Let’s not be too cut-and-dried here. I went to East Germany twice- in 1979 or thereabouts and in late 1988. I made friends there the first time, and was visiting them the second time. Both times I was in the company of a friend who was born there but who escaped on the handlebars of his mother’s bike when he was about 8 years old, when his father was jailed as an “exploiter of the working class” (he ran a factory making printing machinery). He became a professor of marketing in London, so no Ostalgia there.</p>
<p>My experience was that yes, there was a considerable lack of freedom. No, most people couldn’t easily travel to the West. No, you couldn’t say what you wanted; yes, people  spied on each other. The upside (and there was an upside for many people) was, as Seamus Milne says, “full employment, social equality, cheap housing, transport and culture, one of the best childcare systems in the world, and greater freedom in the workplace than most employees enjoy in today’s Germany”. I haven’t read the article, and I think I’d query the last point, but I would add health care as another plus point. I remember talking to a girl from Jena university who pointed out that if you were poor in the West you couldn’t travel either, even if they let you&#8230;  The interesting thing is that on my last visit, about ten years ago, at least two of the couples I’d met earlier had serious reservations about the “instant reunification” of the two Germanies. What they’d hoped for was a more gentle transition over a few years or so, via a Scandinavian-style social democracy. </p>
<p>What they got was, as for many in the East, a dreadful shock. Sure, they were suddenly allowed to do what they wanted, say what they wanted- start their own businesses, travel, etc. The fact is most of them were psychologically unsuited to do any of those things. What they had had was security- a nanny-like, oppressive security, it’s true, but they didn’t need to worry about losing their jobs, their houses, etc. (A bit like Spain after Franco, in fact&#8230;). But now all the rich, smart, Western-educated elite came over and bought up land, houses, companies- everything the Treuhand could sell, it sold. They’d exchanged slavery to the state for slavery to the (external) private sector. My friend was offered his father’s old home in Germany for just a few thousand marks. To his credit, he didn’t take it, because he discovered that it was turned into flats after the war, and six families would have to be evicted if he did. </p>
<p>So when people say “things were better under Communism”  remember that for many people- especially the poor- many things were no worse. Most people adapt to the system they have. Do we seriously believe every Frenchman was a member of the maquis during the war? A large proportion of Germans were pretty much unconcerned who ran the country in the 30s. The majority of Spaniards carried on under Franco, and their lives didn’t change radically after his death. A surprising number of Cubans seem to be more or less content under Castro- perhaps they too are apprehensive about the American Dream-type alternative?</p>
<p> As the new generations come through, the East/West division will fade away- but it’s going to need a couple of generations- not helped by the fact that, as I said, at least in business the Wessies often treat the Ossies with contempt, as a source for cheap labour without immigration problems&#8230;  This is no defence of the old system, but nor is the new one faultless. And at least we can criticise&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Countries without McDonald&#8217;s by Andrej</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrej</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a very interesting list.  Looks like we could add Iceland to it now.</description>
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		<title>Comment on My media week 18/10/09 by Mike Potter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Potter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always wondered why I failed to make the grade!</description>
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		<title>Comment on 40 Oxbridge interview questions by My media week 18/10/09 &#171; Molivam42&#8217;s Weblog</title>
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		<dc:creator>My media week 18/10/09 &#171; Molivam42&#8217;s Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 15:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] did a piece last year about the Oxbridge interview and this week The Telegraph invited seven Oxbridge alumni to answer a typical interview question. [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Now that’s what I call history by Jerry Rogers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry Rogers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 15:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A book I read many years ago (and written nearly 80 years ago!) attempts this &quot;Big History&quot; approach with the story of humanity. It&#039;s &quot;Last and First Men: A Story of the Near and Far Future&quot;, a science fiction novel written in 1930 by the British author Olaf Stapledon. He got the nearest part of his predictions horribly wrong (which may account for his eclipse...). See the Wikipedia entry for more information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A book I read many years ago (and written nearly 80 years ago!) attempts this &#8220;Big History&#8221; approach with the story of humanity. It&#8217;s &#8220;Last and First Men: A Story of the Near and Far Future&#8221;, a science fiction novel written in 1930 by the British author Olaf Stapledon. He got the nearest part of his predictions horribly wrong (which may account for his eclipse&#8230;). See the Wikipedia entry for more information.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Put-pocketing and other new words by Heen</title>
		<link>http://molivam42.wordpress.com/2009/09/25/put-pocketing-and-other-new-words/#comment-2515</link>
		<dc:creator>Heen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 19:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have used the expression &quot;SPF creep&quot; for several years now to refer to brainless oafs who automatically buy their clothes at SPRINGFIELD without pausing to think if they actually look good. I&#039;m referring to crappy garments such as tee shirts with meaningless slogans along the lines of &quot;Best Original Surf Quality Legend&quot;. Chinese imitations of this rubbish are multifarious and usually contain at least three spelling mistakes. Eid Mubarak.  -  Heen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have used the expression &#8220;SPF creep&#8221; for several years now to refer to brainless oafs who automatically buy their clothes at SPRINGFIELD without pausing to think if they actually look good. I&#8217;m referring to crappy garments such as tee shirts with meaningless slogans along the lines of &#8220;Best Original Surf Quality Legend&#8221;. Chinese imitations of this rubbish are multifarious and usually contain at least three spelling mistakes. Eid Mubarak.  &#8211;  Heen</p>
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		<title>Comment on Politics without romance by Elitist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elitist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 13:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You say: &quot;Electing better people will not, by itself, lead to much better government&quot;. I&#039;d say it should. But to decide who the &quot;better people&quot; are is a hideous task, and it would seem that most people don&#039;t give a damn. Call me elitist, but i can&#039;t help wondering if it wouldn&#039;t be a very bad idea to limit voting rights to people who can prove that they are of a least average intelligence and have some awareness of the world around them. Populism and demagogy are the scourge of democracy. Look around the globe and you will see dozens of complete scumbags in public office, and I mean on the right and left. &quot;Public choice&quot; should mean what it says, and should exclude the possiblity of buying into the sleaze-ridden ethno-centric monstrosity that passes for parliamentary democracy in our depraved Western world. A pox on all of you who support this system, and Bibiana Aido in particular.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You say: &#8220;Electing better people will not, by itself, lead to much better government&#8221;. I&#8217;d say it should. But to decide who the &#8220;better people&#8221; are is a hideous task, and it would seem that most people don&#8217;t give a damn. Call me elitist, but i can&#8217;t help wondering if it wouldn&#8217;t be a very bad idea to limit voting rights to people who can prove that they are of a least average intelligence and have some awareness of the world around them. Populism and demagogy are the scourge of democracy. Look around the globe and you will see dozens of complete scumbags in public office, and I mean on the right and left. &#8220;Public choice&#8221; should mean what it says, and should exclude the possiblity of buying into the sleaze-ridden ethno-centric monstrosity that passes for parliamentary democracy in our depraved Western world. A pox on all of you who support this system, and Bibiana Aido in particular.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Some philosophical thought experiments #1 by Some philosophical thought experiments #2 &#171; Molivam42&#8217;s Weblog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Some philosophical thought experiments #2 &#171; Molivam42&#8217;s Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 16:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Here is a previous post: Some philosophical thought experiments #1 [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Trust me, I’m an adman by internet elias</title>
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		<dc:creator>internet elias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 13:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Advertising. Hmmmmmm. Like everything else, advertising has its good and its bad.   It does, as you say, promote competition...which is good for us all.   But there are those who use it wisely. And there are those who use it sadistically...&#039;down and dirty.&#039;  And,  on occasions, I have said to store clerks concerning the wording on &#039;price posters&#039;.......&quot;I know it&#039;s called marketing..with the INTENT to DECEIVE.  But the technique is IMMORAL.&quot;  Best thing for we consumers is to be on the lookout for &#039;deceptive&#039; wording, read the small print, ask questions concerning price &#039;before&#039; getting to the check-out line, and EXPECT deceptive marketing techniques.    Also, as you say, price increases on many products are blamed on the cost of advertising.  Best example here likely is the Walton Family of Walmart.  I expect they spend as much or more &#039;advertising&#039; dollars than other corporations.  And they claim to have the &#039;lowest prices.&#039;    You are right, advertising dollars are not the cause of higher priced goods.  PROFIT MARGINS are the cause of higher priced goods.  Wages are blue collar workers are often blamed for the higher prices of some goods and services. Check it out if you dare.  Puffy PROFIT MARGINS, as with Walmart, are sinfully inflated while the majority of employees work at minimum wage with no benefits.  Advertising immensely benefits those who continue to purchase it. But &#039;advertising&#039; does not always benefit the consumer...except in the area of competitive pricing.  With the &#039;intent to deceive&#039; so often found in advertising, I have become a &#039;defensive&#039; shopper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Advertising. Hmmmmmm. Like everything else, advertising has its good and its bad.   It does, as you say, promote competition&#8230;which is good for us all.   But there are those who use it wisely. And there are those who use it sadistically&#8230;&#8217;down and dirty.&#8217;  And,  on occasions, I have said to store clerks concerning the wording on &#8216;price posters&#8217;&#8230;&#8230;.&#8221;I know it&#8217;s called marketing..with the INTENT to DECEIVE.  But the technique is IMMORAL.&#8221;  Best thing for we consumers is to be on the lookout for &#8216;deceptive&#8217; wording, read the small print, ask questions concerning price &#8216;before&#8217; getting to the check-out line, and EXPECT deceptive marketing techniques.    Also, as you say, price increases on many products are blamed on the cost of advertising.  Best example here likely is the Walton Family of Walmart.  I expect they spend as much or more &#8216;advertising&#8217; dollars than other corporations.  And they claim to have the &#8216;lowest prices.&#8217;    You are right, advertising dollars are not the cause of higher priced goods.  PROFIT MARGINS are the cause of higher priced goods.  Wages are blue collar workers are often blamed for the higher prices of some goods and services. Check it out if you dare.  Puffy PROFIT MARGINS, as with Walmart, are sinfully inflated while the majority of employees work at minimum wage with no benefits.  Advertising immensely benefits those who continue to purchase it. But &#8216;advertising&#8217; does not always benefit the consumer&#8230;except in the area of competitive pricing.  With the &#8216;intent to deceive&#8217; so often found in advertising, I have become a &#8216;defensive&#8217; shopper.</p>
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